Things are good, but it's bad - LG 55GB6310 LCD TV use report

Additional amendments (2015-09-13 22:28:05):
Answers to the value-friends' response: 1. The first picture of Tang Wei's use is just because of the many photos taken. After all, it is not appropriate to put up the sharp eyes of the female pole vault athletes. It is not very good to release Liu Xiang's smiling face in the commentary. “There is no way to stop.” Only the blue sky grassland and the hometown HDTV are black. Painted anti-war drama... It's not advertising! Not even chasing stars! (PS: I don't use Pantene, my goddess is Matsu Takako.) 2. There are too many worthy friends to say that there is too much text. This is really no way. Ah ~ The quality of the card machine is too bad. The mobile phone, in fact, was intended to be a comparison. At that time, when he bought the “2000 price”, he just used 920 to capture a picture of “Love Apartment 4” (content is “It turned out to be you!”. It was a coincidence). But later I discovered that even if I put the screen in the same frame, the background lighting is exactly the same, but also because the mobile phone system upgrade, there is no way to restore the white balance, ISO and shutter speed at the time of taking pictures, but to give up. As for the effect of this TV, I think the picture can explain the problem. Despite being a big man in the blind, the picture did not pass through the PS. It just cut the size. The window is facing west. In the afternoon, the sun is strong and close to the light. With oblique angles, I can feel that this image quality is good. What's more, using a camera to shoot a TV screen is definitely not as effective as actually watching. 3. If you really have valued friends, because this article has passed off this machine. Indeed, it is better to buy something else if the prices are quite comparable and the quality is quite good. But if you have no choice, this is still very good. After all, in so many shopping malls to visit so many laps, seeing really not much. In fact, at that time, Dafa’s W800A prototype was also seen for clearance, and it was still sold at 6,000. It's about the same price as the next W800B. I have to buy online, nothing more than sticking to the fact that the white papers are free of fees. 4. The article is so long, the text is so much, there are so many friends to see and comment, thank you for your love! After all, it was something that I used. When I had a lot of thoughts, I just wrote it and sent it out. It wasn't for all sorts of gold coins. It is nothing but hope to help you select TVs and adjust TV parameters.

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Another point of nonsense

In fact, the intention was to buy Dafa's 50W800B. But unfortunately, her husband's husband took me out of order on the grounds of no goods, so I could only buy this for the same price. Looking at Aunt Zhang’s material, hey, hey, hey hey hey hey hey hey!

Why shouldn't you be a big boss? Because of a missed hand, the original (new product price is 2,000). There was no TV in half a month. The family was so stressed!

Before buying a TV, I refer to a verse. If you want to see a friend who does not want to register, you can search for the title. Many people have reprinted it. According to the article, if you can find old models, try to buy a slightly older model . There is a description of the reason.

There is already a friend who is out of the box with the same amount of money. I will say something different if possible. (Actually, I just didn't catch the moment of opening the box.)


Now that this TV has begun to clear inventory, my TV is earlier than the production time above. Think about it .

The quality of this TV is still quite good. I hope you don’t miss such a good thing because of these shortcomings. Of course, if you think I've over-hyped this product, please also consider its price.

In some places in the text, inserting pictures or videos is more appropriate, but because the accuracy is not enough, even if you insert it, you cannot see the effect.


As a senior diving party, life is the first time a single-stem evaluation. Also hope not to spray

Overview

The GB6310 and GB6500, GB6580 are the same series of products, both belong to the middle of 2014. Compared with the latter two, the appearance is slightly different and the function is only a lack of 3D function. But now 3D TV is not only an outdated gimmick, but almost a dead end . Unless the 2D quality is particularly outstanding, it is not recommended to buy.


This picture was originally contained in the home appliance forum. You can see the detailed positioning of this product.

This product is not a 4K TV. In the current situation where the HD channel is not yet fully popular, this 2K TV is sufficient. If you think that buying 4K now is for the future, you may want to think about the time from the HD test channel trial to the present (now that there are still so many SD channels). How many people are using the 1080p or even 720p HDTVs sold at the time? Like 3D, it is nothing more than a gimmick . Unless you want to buy 4K TV processing 2K picture quality is also very outstanding, otherwise it is not recommended to buy.

After all, television is used to see. In this respect alone, the picture quality of this TV is great . With my own senses, after the tune up, there will be a feeling that “people will come out of the TV” (fortunately, not Sadako). In details, it is also obvious that female anchors are full of large pores and masks. This high-quality, first thanks to LG's own production of IPS hard screen, and second, the various technologies to deal with the screen. This is precisely why some domestic manufacturers, although claiming to use screens from foreign brands, may not be as shocking as heavenly people. After all, TV is not as simple as a screen + power supply.

Appearance, design

A large screen, two corner frames, is now a big force in the design of LCD TVs. Together with the generic design of the LG TV (even the universal tripod), there's just too much to say. Compared with the series of GB6500 and GB6580, the appearance is just the difference between color and material: black VS gray, plastic VS metal. However, the plastic surface is coated with a metal-like coating that feels metallic. Just tapping, plastic sounds are exposed.

On the interface, a set of component + AV hybrid interface, three HDMI interfaces, three USB interfaces, and one CAM interface. Although it is an old style standard, it is also a little regrettable. While radio and television stations around the world are using the card binding as a means to promote the set-top box, the CAM card is really untimely. Therefore, the new models of major TV manufacturers have canceled the design of CAM cards. If you are fortunate enough, radio and television give you a horse, buy a CAM card, after all, and the system UI with better. (According to netizens, after using CAM, the speed of changing channels is not as good as that of a set-top box. This has not been measured and cannot be confirmed.)

Three HDMI interfaces, one adds MHL protocol. This is basically a chicken rib. After all, even if you use this feature, you have to buy another patch cord. And these three interfaces have a small bug, this later table ( digging the first pit ). In addition, it looks like this model does not support CEC control, and my raspberry pie did not respond when tested.

Three USB ports can only read media files by default. After installing file management software such as ES file browser, you can read files in other formats. In addition, these three interfaces can also be an external mouse and keyboard, or even a wireless mouse and keyboard (provided that the driver is free).

But this does not mean that you can connect to a computer through these three interfaces like a mobile phone, read files or use a software like pea pods to control the TV. After the actual measurement, even the eggs on the computer do not play.

However, these six interfaces are relatively tight, and the gap between the socket and the backplane is very large, and it is difficult to insert them when they are inserted. But too hard and worried about the interface is not so strong. Personally grasp the power of it, plug more times just fine (呃 ......).

Android itself

Unlike the webOS used by general LG Smart TVs, GB uses the Android system for this series of TVs. Is it Happy? Baby, your nightmare is behind you.

This interface is really simple... a native Android system, simple but not suitable for non-touch screen operation. So LG equipped with a Wii remote control (big mistake, in fact, webOS system models also equipped with such a thing).
(As to why there is no custom proprietary interface or system, explained later.)

LG motion sensor remote control uses a built-in gyro to sense hand movements and control cursor operation. The keys are also quite straightforward. Only three keys use long presses and short presses to distinguish between different functions. Signal transmission uses 2.4Ghz wireless technology. So, plainly, this is a custom wireless mouse.

Others are very good, the biggest drawback is that using the scroll wheel button as a determination button, but the wheel button is too hard. Coupled with motion sensing, it's easy for the wrist to hurt, and it hurts even more.

Since it is 2.4Ghz, some people may worry about interference problems. Fortunately not, although the TV also has a built-in wifi module, but the interference phenomenon has not appeared.

In addition to using 2.4Ghz wireless technology, this remote control also uses traditional infrared technology. For example the Shutdown button (yes, you can't use this remote control to shut the TV off a wall), and there is also an organic top box compatibility feature (official name "Configure Video Input").

This feature is still quite earthy. Under normal circumstances, we are all using a remote control switch TV, control set-top box with a remote control, hit the BUG set-top box, and sometimes have to take the TV remote control emergency (such as my set-top box can not control the size of the global sound). And this compatible function can use the TV remote control to control the set-top box , so only one remote controller can be used. Although the function is relatively simple, it is still quite practical.

Specifically, you first need to choose what source you need to control, such as HDMI. Then select the STB corresponding to the radio and television company, as shown in the figure below (the blank should have an image of an external source, but the Android system limits it and cannot intercept it). After selecting, you can try to control the set-top box. Even if the location is not listed, you can try one by one, maybe you can run into something that you can use (such as my set-top box).

Of course, if it is a natively supported radio and television company, you can also use the "now hot" feature, a premium TV guide.

However, when it comes to a slightly more advanced function, such as turning off the top box, using digital channels, etc., it is still relatively painful (again, the problem of system screenshots, the size of the screen is marked with a red line).

When you are stumbled and want to shut down the top box to sleep, with the pain of the wrist, wide-eyed eyes carefully look at the cursor on the screen, but also have to aim at the block of virtual buttons. You are not afraid to wake up again?

This kind of " good idea is made to tasteless " phenomenon is innumerable in TV manufacturers. This TV also has two tasteless features, one is "ftp storage," which can be used as an ftp server to access stored content over the network. However, it is limited to browser access and download. As for professional ftp software such as Filezilla, there is nothing that can be done. The second is the "voice assistant." It is inconceivable to accurately identify the number of parties. To speak to a non-human person alone makes me feel stupid.

Although it is not uncommon to have a lot of ribs, BUG can be a systemic Bug that is rare. Unfortunately, this TV hits. We will table this later (digging a pit).

Speaking of BUG, ​​I encountered this type of obsessive compulsive disorder in Virgo. It was totally unbearable. Since it is an Android system, ROOT is not on the line to change the configuration file? Unfortunately, the ROOT road does not work. First of all, various ROOT tools and tools that claim to "free ROOT unloading pre-installed applications" are completely useless. LG has blocked most of the temporary ROOT loopholes, so there is no way to further ROOT. Secondly, because of the limitation of the USB interface, the ADB tool can only be used remotely. Not to mention that LG has hacked the permissions of the system partition. You cannot switch to the root and write su and SuperSU.apk to the system partition to ROOT.

(Yes, when it comes to adb, it means that you can remotely use some common user rights features via adb, such as installing apps , sending commands, etc.... Yes, you can also turn off the TV on your computer , or you can't use it. In the case of a physical key, the above figure is cut.)

As for fastboot...呃, no attempt. However, unlike webOS models, LG does not provide firmware downloads for Android TVs . So after brushing into a wall, you can neither repair it yourself nor enjoy warranty. (But it was found that the test can be restarted to Recovery.)

Media player

Although the use of Android system means that the system is highly scalable, media playback can be completed with third-party software, but LG still supports most of the commonly used media packaging formats and audio and video encoding methods, details in the instructions Description, as shown below. According to actual measurement, because of the use of a patent decoder and hard solution, the playback of Blu-ray discs (a movie of 20G~30G, not x264 re-encoding) is very smooth, and it perfectly supports DTS-HD 5.1 channel resolution ( Yes, you can hear left rear, right rear and center channel sounds) and multi-track audio. Testing this alone will show that other media formats are a piece of cake.

(PS: The above table is only theoretical. After the test, it was found that encountering special film sources is not supported.)

But when it comes to hard solutions, LG's hard solution is somewhat similar to some Android boxes and is not open to third-party software . This means that if you use software such as MX Player, you can only add hard decoders yourself, otherwise... card into a dog.

But why do you have to install third-party software like MX Player? Look at the picture below~

Subtitles pit father ah! The default only supports the smi and srt formats. The supported languages ​​are English, Cantonese and national. Although it is stated that only UTF-8 encoding is supported, GB18030 and Big5 are actually supported. However, after testing, it does not support embedded subtitles, only plug-in. Even if it is a plug-in, the buffer time becomes a dog, and the display of srt subtitles is totally based on luck. Moreover, even if the effect of the effect is shown, er ... (also because the system does not cut the video screen, mark the border with a red line.)

Subtitles border

This is already the smallest size you can set.

So, watching a video with subtitles, or loading a MX Player, and then hard decoding decoding package.

But (but again...), measured (and measured...), even if only one MX player is installed, the system interface starts to appear slightly stuck. Not to mention that because of an incompatible application, " Live TV is not responding " popping up all the time. (Live TV This application is used to see HDMI, component and AV signals. This APP is not responsive, huh, huh ~)

Therefore, you still cannot use smart TVs as smart boxes.

So, think of it as a native Android or CyanogenMod phone. The advantages it has, the disadvantages it has. The mobile phone has a touch screen, this is not ah. This is also the necessity of dynamic sensor remote control. However, in most cases, using the arrow keys will suffice, unless you encounter an application that does not fit your TV screen.

As for the others, you can press the Jelly Bean menu or press the developer mode. However, there is no egg.

In summary, you still forgot about intelligence .

(As for why the native Android interface is used, the answer is below ~)


image

In front of you have written some awards for quality. For the inadequacies, I also use the personal experience to copy the article of the home appliance forum.

First of all, the viewing angle and color saturation of the IPS screen are indeed quite good. The poor light leakage control is also common sense. But... It's less common to have blackened corners . It is generally believed that the phenomenon of blackening in the corners of this TV is more serious. The effect on color is that the sides are red.

This is a picture of the built-in white balance adjustment system. It can be seen that the phenomenon of blackening at the corners is serious. The color cannot be shot because of the camera.

Of course, the objective effect is: It looks more like an old TV. It also enhances the feeling of "depth of field" rather than a plane.

Second, even if it is an Android system, LG has not shrunk from other systems in the setting of image parameters. But... (to fill the pit)

First, the color saturation is really good . Plus LG's optimization technology, as well as the image parameters you have carefully tuned, will give you a feeling of 3D depth of field. This is why I say "I feel like I'm out of the TV." But I need to add a constraint here, that is, this feeling usually exists when watching high-definition signals and relatively static images . In other words, even if you are flying Spider-Man on the screen, you will not feel that he can get out of the screen. Instead, look at a news announcer who doesn’t move much about his mouth. You will feel how deep the screen is.

Followed by the standard definition signal processing. My feeling is that there is no such thing as the article written so angry with people. Of course, it may also be because of the reason why my SD signal is processed by the HD set-top box.

The last is the color grading. The processing of highlights is not very good, and it is a bit confusing. But fortunately, it is acceptable after adjustment . That "current price of 2,000 yuan" is really too cheap, and the color scale is called a mess. No matter how the tone, the highlight is a dazzling bright spot.

Moreover, the test shows that when the GB6310 looks at the color levels of red and blue , the display effect is not so perfect, and the color gradation cannot be distinguished when the luminance is high. But much better than the screen I use for my notebook. (It's really a bone in the egg~)

Here are the various image settings. First, there are many preset picture modes . But as the article said, no matter what the mode, it looks a bit strange. If you do not change the parameters, it can only make do see. In the image settings, the general use of backlight contrast does not say, say something different:

Dynamic Contrast: In simple terms, " brighter, brighter, darker , darker places ", setting it well will make people feel "deep". However, if the setting is too high, the screen will be very strange.

Super-resolution, edge enhancer, noise reduction (emphasis on analog signals), MPEG noise reduction (emphasis on digital signals): are de-blurring techniques. If you set it up, you won't see it, but you will feel it when you see it for a long time. Of course, if the settings are not good, patches will appear when you encounter a bad source. Can only be adjusted according to the actual situation of the individual.

Of course, some people also say that since they can adjust their sharpness, why do they still have such a function? In fact, this parameter of clarity depends not only on individual senses, but also on adjustments. such as: Watching TV late at night can always see this: test cards . The inside radiation is used to adjust the sharpness (others are used to correct the color and check the image distortion). The method is that there should be no bright white edges on either side of each line . The final result is: With sharpness, you will encounter low-resolution video. Even if you set the sharpness parameter to a high level, the blurred image will not become clear and will only make the edges too bright. Therefore, these defuzzification functions play an optimization role. Through the various algorithms of the chip, the images “see” more clearly and bright edges do not appear.

Or return to the beginning of the point of view. Why is the price of many foreign brand TVs high? That is because there are many techniques for image processing. Looking at domestically produced TVs, the introduction looks like nothing but "smart," "4K," or "3D."

Color gamut: simply the coverage of the color. Because of the many gamut standards, different standards define different ranges. So even if the TV can display a wider range of color gamuts, the film source uses a low standard and does not see significant differences.

Black level: Probably means setting a standard to make the brightness lower than this standard black. This varies from person to person. Only the analog signal and the digital signal have different black levels. HDMI's "low" corresponds to the "high" component signal, and it is not known whether this is a BUG.

TruMotion: that is, LG's frequency multiplier technology can also be said to insert frame technology to make the dynamic image more smooth. Good is very good, especially sports games. But this also involves the reason why I bought Dafa at the time.

At this point, LG did have some worse technology. LG's interpolation frame technology is more provocative, 24-frame animation processing is very good, but 24 frames of real-life movies and TV shows are basically not, and occasionally there are several can also be. Of course, almost all of the current TV shows are 24 frames, but 30 frames are rare. The 30-frame film source sometimes has a " soap effect ", which is too smooth, and even looks like a "quick release" feeling. However, most of the 30 frames are still very good , including sports games. At the same time, when it comes to a bad source, the default two options are “soft” and “bright”. The former tears the screen and the latter causes the screen to freeze . The custom option is the same, after setting the parameters is not tearing or staving. The same applies to Dafa's MotionFlow technology, but it will not cause so many rendering errors. So look at personal preferences. If you don't feel bad about this, then OK.

White Balance: General TV has this option. But usually there will only be "red, green, blue" three-color adjustment. LG is much more complex and different modes have different setting options. For example, most of the patterns are the structure of "Love Color (Skin Color, Grass Color, Blue Sky Color) + Color Temperature", and the professional and theater modes are "Hue + White Balance (20 IRE and 2 IRE)" structures. Of course, how to adjust it is a matter of opinion, and conditional color instrument can also be used. But BUG is in:!

(fill pit!!)
(Note: This BUG may only be the only one I have . I used the same type of net friend for verification but I didn’t receive a reply on this issue . Also, I’ve performed a software upgrade the first time I’ve received the machine. Because LG’s The system cannot be downgraded, so it is unclear whether the upgrade has caused this problem.)


If you take the root HDMI cable and see something on the TV, you have chosen the " point-to-point mode " on the aspect ratio, and at the same time it is a person who "does not give up on image parameters for a month and a half" (such as my Virgo compulsion. Symptoms, then you will surely find the following questions:

1. Shut down when you've worked hard to tune into what you most like. Go back and turn it on and see... What?! How it got brighter? ! Try another signal source... How come back?
2. Just select a preset parameter and move the color temperature option. As with the previous result, it turns on after restart.
3. In the blue color of the "color management system", no matter how it is tuned, the above numbers are unchanged.
4. Why does "Love Color" only adjust to the same three numbers?

This is the BUG of this TV: In some cases, the white balance setting fails . The specific situation is:
1. In the “point-to-point mode” of the HDMI signal, the color temperature will become cold after the TV is restarted. Switch the source, open the APP, and adjust the white balance-related options.
2. Under all the signals and all screen ratios, the value of “Favorite Color” and the blue related value in “Color Management System” will be automatically reset.

This means that none of the options on white balance can move .

I reflected this problem to LG customer service. The customer service staff asked me to find the local LG service station. After viewing the service station personnel, they said: nothing can be done . The first is that this is a system software problem . The service station only repairs hardware-related problems. Second, there is no hardware failure or serious failure to identify the cause (can not boot, frequent automatic shutdown, etc.), the service station can not issue a document, to the seller to return to the factory, replacement, return (Yes, LG's return It is not LG who handles it, but the person who sold it to you to LG.)

The final solution is: wait for software updates .

But what day will the software update be? The estimate will not be.

Because this problem tried ROOT after no success, found a brush firmware article. Although it does not work, it gets such a set of parameters: The circled area indicates that this model belongs to the Google TV product line (this product line does not enter the mainland). What is the status of Google TV? The foreign Google TV switched to Android 4.2.2 in 2013 and there is no further post.

Our version also happens to be 4.2.2.

(Because it is directly upgraded from Google TV to Android, it becomes a native Android interface, without any custom LG UI.)

Recognize it~

I give two "temporary" solutions here:

1. Use component lines . Or use the component line by default, and temporarily replace the HDMI signal if necessary.

The reason for writing the last sentence is mainly due to the shortcomings of the component line. After all, unlike HDMI digital signals, component lines are analog signals.
The first is the resolution. Although the component line can theoretically transmit 1080i or even 1080p signals, this TV will have obvious noise and ghosting when it processes 1080p signals transmitted by component lines. The old TV (2000 new price) that I was ruined has no problem at all. Therefore, if you want to use 1080p, skip this solution.
Followed by clarity . The same 1080i format, component lines in the processing details, and not as sharp as the HDMI line, there will be a little "paste" feeling. This drawback is not difficult to solve. The first thing to do is to adjust the sharpness slightly higher than the HDMI, and at the same time turn on the option of sharpening the edge in the image adjustment to the maximum. Fine tune it up, and at the end it looks similar.
Then color levels . At this point, only the naked eye can see that the camera cannot shoot. For example, when looking at a person's face with the HDMI signal, the transition from the cheekbone's highlight to the dark part of the cheek will have clear light and dark changes with clear details . But when using the component line, this change of light and shade is not so clear, and the details are lost and it feels like a "paste." There is no way to solve this point. But is anyone watching TV in front of a TV? This can still be ignored when the distance is sufficient.
The last is sound. HDMI supports 5.1 channels, with only two channels of color difference. Nowadays, many high-definition channels have some programs broadcasted using surround sound, and most of them are live programs and music programs. At this point, the weight is still fatal.
(About the comparison between color difference and HDMI, there is a lot of text on the Internet, you can search for details.)

2. Using the HDMI cable, use "16:9 mode" for the aspect ratio.

The disadvantage of this is that all parts other than the TV security box have been cut off . Moreover, due to the system's own reason, the 16:9 mode cannot set the screen zoom ratio. Although there are no shortcomings of the component lines, many TV channels are not completely in compliance with the security box. The most obvious example is the New Vision HD channel . Due to the need to regularly broadcast Premier League matches, this channel simply puts the logo above the score on a regular basis, so exactly half of it is outside the safety box. Occasionally, other high-definition channels have similar situations (mostly mark and scroll races). Therefore, obsessive-compulsive disorder is still not so good.

Having said so much, the image is really "rejuvenating and annoying!"

Attach my image parameters:
Professional 1:
Backlight: 78
Contrast: 91
Brightness: 49
Color:57
Horizontal definition: 15
Vertical resolution: 13
Hue: Red 3
Dynamic Contrast: Low Super Resolution: High Color Gamut: Wide Edge Enhancer: Open White Balance:
Color temperature: Natural color Method:
20IRE, Red -10, Green 15, Blue 0
2IRE, Red 3, Green 0, Blue 2
Noise reduction: Component signal under MPEG noise reduction: open under HDMI Black level: high under component, low under HDMI Cinema mode: On (this option can sometimes be selected, something can not be selected, look character)
TruMotion: Vivid Professional 2: Compared to Pro 1 , only Trumotion is closed.

In addition, these two parameters are effective even under the BUG of HDMI. It was just that the color temperature was not so warm and it was a bit cold.

(put a link http://, a tutorial to adjust the TV image. You can refer to this article in the link if you want to carefully adjust the screen parameters. At the same time, the system's built-in “ mass magician ” can also help tune, in principle Much the same.)

sound

As for the sound, it is not so complicated. Several modes are provided by default, and there are also custom five-band equalizers . However, it is not recommended to customize. This is determined by the hardware of this TV: First, the bass is thick , and if the low frequency is adjusted too much, it will feel too "boring" or too "hung." Followed by high frequency too , even if the high frequency is adjusted to 0, the tooth tone is still very obvious. So weird audio, or choose a preset. I prefer the "film" mode.

As for other "virtual surround sounds" and "brighter vocals" (increase the amount of human voice, not simply raising the volume of the intermediate frequency) and "synchronization of sound and image", it is generally of little use. What's more, the former two are only in the "standard" mode. Available under. Only “sound optimization” is more practical, and the wall-mounted mode and the base mode are indeed different, and the optimization results are also good.

summary

Having said so much, since this TV is so "bad", why don't you recommend it?

What are we buying TV for? Used to see . In addition to this, all other are affiliated. So to put it, television can be broken down into such a relationship:

relationship

At the core of video effects and sound effects, the quality of this TV is still very good. Although not top, the upper middle class is still considered. Although there are bugs in the system and settings, it does not have much impact on the core parts. After all, no one buys TV for playing all day . As for smart, 3D, and 4K things that are not just needed , that's optional. Therefore, even if there are so many shortcomings, it will not affect the core functions of this TV.

It's still the first words. TV is buying old and not buying new . Plus fast clearance, and want to buy or pay close attention .

PS: At the end, posting a photo was a list I used when I was at home to compare TV effects. Originally three, most of the lost ones.